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The Chlamydia Pneumoniae Cause

There is no such a thing as a single cause of any health problem. We can only talk about co factors, causative agents and life situations that like pieces of puzzle interact with each other, and together promote a chain of events ending with a named set of symptoms and health problems & with Chlamydia.


A 1970 University of Washington study proved 100% -- that all 20 people with heart disease also had Chlamydia Pneumoniae. Other countries confirmed the study over the last 30-40 years.

All disorders and health problems that happen to humans are multidimensional, because we, humans are multidimensional.

Modern medical science is manly interested in physical and tangible world. It blames too many problems on bad genes, bad viruses, bad bacteria, ...

Genes are always a factor of our health, but that is the only factor we can't do anything about. Genes only represent our predisposition & potential to encounter certain problem or disease. It is our life and our lifestyle as whole that makes the final decision on whether we are going to experience certain problem or not. The truth is, no illness and no disorder or any health problem is caused by a single factor!

There are virtually hundreds of cofactors / hundreds of causative agents that each have casual relationship to poor immunity, poor health, accumulation of toxins inside body, poor thoughts, and that promotes illness! Chlamydia Pneumoniae. I think this is the cause of the Bronchial Junkitis that my family and various work associates have. God grant us healing!

www.curezone.com has a great forum on disease!

Get educated - cultured if you can. I don't have the time or reliable docs I don't have to fight with. Research CP on the web. Chlamydia Pneumoniae is spread by airborne droplets, likes cool not cold weather, and infects the nose and pharynx.

I've seen this syndrome (which I think is CP) in varying intensities. It seems to whack one side of your head, then the other, so ear pain from the wicked thick mucus will shift sides. The stuff that drips down in your lungs is what causes pneumonia, but it isn't a true pneumonia as being sited chiefly in the head. The mucus is so thick it can be strangling. When in the ears, it can cause dizziness.

CP attacks mononuclear cells, so get ready for fatigue and relapse. Get the over-the-counter mucus thinner, time release Guiafenesin sold as MUCINEX. Do not take salicylates with Guiafenesin, as this blocks the action. That means no aspirin and virtually no herbs or spices, see? Drink plenty of pure water as MUCINEX brings a greater degree of hydration all the way around, as Fibromyalgia sufferers have found in its relief of aches and pains.

Maybe you could do MUCINEX 2X one day, then herbs. I think Berberine would whack it back, found in Barberry tincture. Wild Oregano oil has helped me and mine, especially on the upper lung area topically, or ringing the neck, or (diluted) on the face, not eyes! Doxycycline is probably the antibiotic of choice, but be ready for a double course as this stuff is hard to croak.

I haven't done the antibiotics but should, as CP is associated with Atherosclerosis. Mom's ninety, and on her third or fourth course of Zithromax. We've been sick for weeks, and I'd like to formally ask God for miracles of healing for the sick, especially those harried by this disease, which dogs one's health and spirits. Irrigate the sinuses with saline and silver colloid or food-grade hydrogen peroxide. Lay off the milk, says I. God bless you!


Glutathione deficiency has been found to be virtually universal in autoimmune diseases. This deficiency has two major implications: detox failure and viral/microbial activation. Glutathione plays a major role in detoxification. This deficiency impairs the body’s ability to get rid of toxins.

Consequently, people slowly become toxic, storing away poisons in fatty tissue, muscles, organs and the brain. This cellular detox failure can make people canaries to their environment.

To detoxify successfully, this glutathione deficiency must be addressed.

Because glutathione is a potent antiviral and anti-microbial weapon, glutathione deficiency compromises antiviral and anti-microbial defenses, and actually stimulates viral replication. Raising glutathione levels inside the cells can stop the replication of almost any pathogen.

A glutathione deficiency compromises our ability to keep old viruses dormant and fight off bacteria. This is why so many people test positive for EBV, CMV, HHV6, Mycoplasma, and Chlamydia Pneumoniae, etc.

Indications are that glutathione can stop the replication of any intracellular microbe, including HHV6, Chlamydia Pneumoniae, and mycoplasma. Dr. Cheney found that some of his patients were becoming virus free after using a glutathione-creating undenatured whey protein for approximately 6 months. Showing that the increased levels of glutathione were indeed able to handle the viral infections.

There has been a good deal of research that show how important glutathione is.

Immune depressed individuals have lower glutathione levels when fighting disease. Lymphocytes, cells vital for your immune response, depend on glutathione for their proper function and replication. Immunology 61: 503-508 1987 .

Cellular depletion of Glutathione has been implicated as a causative, or contributory factor in many pathologies including Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, cataracts, arteriosclerosis, cystic fibrosis, malnutrition, aging, AIDS and cancer (Bounous et al., 1991).

In addition, Glutathione is essential in supporting the immune system, including natural killer cells (Droege et al., 1997) and in the maintenance of T-lymphocytes (Gutman, 1998).

It is known that as we age, there is a precipitous drop in glutathione levels. Lower Glutathione levels are implicated in many diseases associated with aging, including Cataracts, Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's, atherosclerosis and others. Journal of Clinical Epidemiology 47: 1021-28 1994

Antioxidants are well documented to play vital roles in health maintenance and disease prevention. Glutathione is our cell's own major antioxidant. Why not use what is natural? Biochemical Pharmacology 47:2113-2123 1994

Low glutathione has been demonstrated in neurodegenerative diseases such as MS (Multiple Sclerosis), ALS (Lou Gehrig's Disease), Alzheimer's, and Parkinson's, among others. The Lancet 344: 796-798 1994

Glutathione detoxifies many pollutants, carcinogens and poisons, including many in fuel exhaust and cigarette smoke. It retards damage from radiation such as seen with loss of the ozone. Annual Review of Biochemistry 52: 711-780 1983.

The liver is the main detoxification organ of the body. In the liver we find very high concentrations of glutathione, as it is a major factor in numerous biochemical detoxification pathways. Numerous studies have demonstrated that patients with compromised liver function due to alcohol abuse have significant reduction of glutathione in the liver. (Lamestro, 1995)

Glutathione is essential for the maintenance of Vitamin C and vitamin E levels according to Martensson. He found that as glutathione levels decreased, a corresponding decrease in ascorbic acid and vitamin E followed, which led to systematic mitochondrial death, which in turn leads to a cessation of cellular metabolism.

(It is this mitochondrial death, at first just a dysfunction, that may cause the fatigue found in autoimmune illnesses.)

The over-toxicity causes extensive free radical damage. Inhibits cellular function. Disrupts energy production by the mitochondria. Consequently the primary energy the cells produce is anaerobic which leads to extensive lactic acid buildup in the cells. And more toxicity.

Cheney explains that fatigue becomes worse. Pain increases. You feel sicker. Memory suffers as toxins and free radicals damage the brain, and not enough oxygen gets into the brain. Deep brain structures like the hypothalamus eventually are injured and cause problems with virtually every hormone in your body. They lose their ability to rise and fall according to signals or demands from the body making it harder to respond to changing situations. Actual damage to the DNA of the energy producing mitochondria can occur. Further limiting energy.

As toxins cause free radical damage, you end up with low levels of all the free radical scavengers. They get used up dealing with excessive free radicals produced by the excessive toxins.

Some researchers believe that supplements other than oral glutathione may be more effective in raising blood levels of glutathione. For example, in one trial, blood glutathione levels rose nearly 50% in healthy people taking 500 mg of vitamin C per day for only two weeks.10 Vitamin C raises glutathione by helping the body manufacture it. In addition to vitamin C, other nutritional compounds that may, according to preliminary research, help increase glutathione levels include alpha lipoic acid,11 glutamine,12 methionine,13 S-adenosyl methionine (SAMe),14 and whey protein.15 Vitamin B6, riboflavin, and selenium are required in the manufacture of glutathione. The extent to which any of these nutrients effectively increases glutathione levels in humans remains unclear.


Per serving, asparagus, avocadoes, asparagus, squash, okra, cauliflower, broccoli, potatoes, spinach, walnuts, garlic, and raw tomatoes have the highest glutathione content compared to other vegetables and are particularly rich dietary sources of glutathione (please see the Table 1. below).


>>>> I sort of wonder that if the liver/immune system was functioning normally then parasites/candida/mercury etc wouldnt be an issue (but maybe wrong).

I agree.

And a side-note too- When I began looking things up, I found old posts of Sans Sucres- and I also found another forum she- correct me if it's he--had old posts on. When I clicked on her name to see what more I could find, I found her recent post on Morelesses where she had posted the same thing she just recently posted about the mouth/gum infections...me too...I've had gum infection issues. I don't think they are cleaned up yet either. I had the planing/deep pocket cleaning, and have had follow up cleanings every 3 months- had to have my wisom teeth out at the age of 48, because of chronic infections in the gums around them.

But, I also still have two fillings that I know need to come out (mercury)- and yes, mercury goes hand in hand with the glutathione too.

I think all of this stuff is innerconnected. And a poor working liver, weakened immune system doesn't fend off toxins, bacterias, mycotoxins, parasites, fungus, viruses etc.

Liver flushing is part of the Alt Med Dr's protocol...but he doesn't say it is the "end all cure" for all of this either. It's a tool to help clear out backed up stuff in the liver. People aren't understanding there is much more to the process..I was one of them, I know that to be true. What got my attention about that the one year of liver flushing regularly hadn't cleared out the toxins in the liver like I thought it was supposed to do--was the Biomeridian test specifically done to see what was going on with the liver still--and there's still plenty going on--



heavy metals





Lyme (from the Rocky Mtn spotted fever 40 years ago-and now all biting insects carry it)


We can still have toxins in our liver from things we were exposed to years ago.

Another interesting connection: all my glands were out of whack, and the Dr has helped me get them back in balance with natural glandulars- hypothalmus, pituitary, thyroid- getting them balanced helped bring the adrenals around--and the thymus was also weak (immune system).

One of the thyroid supplements he had me taking (Thyro-CNV from Apex Energetics)--looked to me like it was just vitamins etc...and now I'm reading on the bottle that it's for "thyroid metabolism and glutathione synthesis" has all the same supplements I've found in other places for the glutathione production--so glands are affected too.

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